Discovering the Realities of Planned Giving
Jennifer Lehman sits down with Steven L. Meyers, PhD to discuss charitable giving.
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This interview, available exclusively on Knowledge Hub, informs listeners about key aspects of charitable giving and alternative methods of thinking that can allow them to successfully break traditional molds.
Steven L. Meyer, PhD, author of Personalized Philanthropy: Crash the Fundraising Matrix, recently sat down with Chartered Advisor in Philanthropy® (CAP®) Program Director and Assistant Professor of Philanthropy Jennifer Lehman PhD, JD, CFP®, CAP® to discuss his thoughts on charitable giving and how advisors can deviate from standard ways of thinking to achieve better outcomes.
Escaping the Matrix
Lehman begins her conversation with Meyers by asking him about his inspiration for writing Personalized Philanthropy: Crash the Fundraising Matrix. Meyers responds by saying, “I wanted to share these incredible stories that I had picked up…and the experiences, and along the way I felt that I had kind of redefined the way that I was thinking about philanthropy and fundraising.”
Meyers then goes on to explain his process for writing the book, stating that one of his first challenges was what he would name it. Meyers cites inspiration from the movie The Matrix, stating, “The book and the movie are both about this process…of waking up and…gaining your superpowers as you find your voice, and you find these strategies that will work for you and allow you to thrive in an environment where a lot of people have very difficult times.”
Killer Apps
As their conversation continues, Lehman asks Meyers about his “killer apps.” These personalized plans, according to Meyers, empower all donors to qualify as “major donors,” with far greater impact than they may initially envision.
In reference to the “killer apps,” Meyers states, “Instead of…viewing donors as having just a transactional capacity, you think about them in terms of their total lifetime value.”
Meyers offers his idea of the “philanthropic mortgage” as the best means of visualizing this concept. As he explains, “When you buy a house, you don't have to wait till it's completely fully paid for. You start living there and enjoying the benefit of your house right away. So why can't we think about a gift in that same way, or an endowment in particular?”
When discussing step-up gifts, another of Meyers’ “killer apps,” Lehman points out this option may be favorable to younger donors, stating, “That could work really well for a young professional: somebody early in their career, and it gets that philanthropic mindset going where they are giving a little each year – and then, whether it's every year or every few years, they step it up a little bit.”
Meyers supports this point, sharing a personal anecdote of a young donor being able to see the fruits of his gift realized by giving through a step-up gift plan. Meyers touts this as one of the top benefits of step-up gifts.
Thinking Creatively
After discussing several of these unconventional ideas with Meyers, Lehman points out the importance of thinking creatively in philanthropic giving. She asserts that by approaching donors and expecting them to have cash assets at the point in time the gift is planned, many potential donors can be eliminated from the pool as compared to the amount of donors that may be able to provide gifts through alternative methods, such as virtual endowments and non-cash assets.
Lehman goes on to discuss more creative methods of planning charitable gifts and the concepts behind them. To learn more about these methods of planned giving, the full discussion can be viewed in Knowledge Hub.
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